Embracing Sexual Power: A Journey of Sensual Awakening with Lorna Gale

Ever felt disconnected from your own sensuality, like a vital part of you was just waiting to wake up? Lorna Gale's story is so relatable for many women who navigate societal expectations and personal struggles, only to find themselves more in tune with their sexual and spiritual essence. In this episode, we dive into Lorna's journey from a disengaged life to becoming a celebrated alchemist of sex and spirit, helping others reclaim their sexual power.

Through the ups and downs of her marriage and a health crisis that sparked change, Lorna's openness brings comfort and inspiration to those on the path to self-discovery and sexual liberation. We'll explore sensory pleasures, and break down barriers around feminine pleasure, shame, and empowerment.

Lorna doesn't just share her personal milestones; she brings wisdom from founding sexological bodywork in Canada, detailing the balance of sensation play and the dynamics of domination and submission. This episode is more than a conversation—it's a guide to sexual reawakening. 

If you're looking to reconnect with your body or explore the intersection of sex and spirituality, Lorna's insights remind us it's never too late to embrace our sexuality and live fully alive.

Lorna is a Sex & Spirit Alchemist of the Feminine Led Life,  Somatic Sexologist, Intuitive Energy Healer,  Story Unweaver,  Bondassage Trainer, and Award-winning Speaker. Lorna has been a teacher and leading people on transformative journeys for over 25 years. 

She creates safe and sacred spaces and catalyzes potent transformations in the lives of people so they can feel at home in their bodies, express themselves authentically, and experience sexual freedom and spiritual wholeness.  Lorna is a poet, writer, and a frequent guest on podcasts and TV shows, speaking of the spiritual erotic realm where divine feminine energy and sacred masculine form reflect Spirit in the human experience. 

Through their work with Lorna, people are coming home to themselves. Sexually. Spiritually.

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:05

At the age of 42, I had my first orgasm. Prior to that, I had never explored my body. This whole idea of five years into the marriage when my husband said why don't you find out what makes you feel good so you can tell me, which is really wise words. But I didn't know. I didn't even know where to start.

Speaker 2: 0:22

Welcome to the Radiant Woman podcast, where women learn how to become radiant, confident and own the power and beauty of their sexuality, no matter their size, shape, age or race. Your host is Tarisha Turok. Visit our website at wwwradiantwomanconz to join the Radiant Woman movement. I would love to hear you with us.

Speaker 3: 0:48

Welcome to this episode, and today I have Lorna Gale and I'm very excited to talk about.

Speaker 1: 0:55

Lorna. Thank you so much, Tricia. It's wonderful to be here and I'm really excited about our conversation today.

Speaker 3: 1:00

I'm so excited. Lorna is a sex and spirit alchemist of the feminine-led life. I'm so excited. Lauren is a sex and spirit alchemist of the feminine-led life. She's an intuitive energy healer, a somatic sexologist, a bond research trainer, which I'm very curious about and she creates safe and sacred spaces so people can go back home to their border and live sexually empowered and sexually alive. There are so many questions I have about all of that. I love that. Maybe we start with how did you get to do this work? You were an educator in a school system and then something shifted, so I wonder what was that that took you into this exploration?

Speaker 1: 1:35

How I got to this. I think a big part of it is, like a lot of people is through their own journey, and my journey was a place of. I was, as you say, speaking and teaching in this school system, and what I call the gift of a health crisis allowed me to really go into this journey of my spiritual, really looking at within. But prior to that, when I back up 20 years, I was married and with a beautiful, beautiful man. But I found that I was very, very sexually disconnected from my own body and really, when I look back on it, I realized that this admonition, this teaching to save myself for marriage, wasn't just something about oh, as if there was something right or wrong, but it was.

Speaker 1: 2:16

Actually. I took it in, made me realize that, oh well, my body isn't mine, my sexuality isn't mine, it's for't mine, it's for the husband, it's for the marriage. So this idea of connecting with my body was not even on my radar. So I was very, very disconnected from my sexuality in those first few years of life, of married life, despite my husband being very eager to please me, I just really couldn't access my full sexual erotic energy and so, being a beautiful husband, but I wonder what was your lived experience so women can really relate to that, Like when you say I was connected, what was the lived experience of that?

Speaker 1: 2:55

So at the age of 42, I had my first orgasm. Prior to that, I had never explored my body. This whole idea of five years into the marriage when my husband said, why don't you find out what makes you feel good, so you can tell me, which is really wise words. But I didn't know. I didn't even know where to start. Where do you start when we're taught this idea that, as if you're supposed to get married and then everything fits into place and everybody knows what to do? I didn't know what to do.

Speaker 1: 3:23

All we knew was this male trajectory of build, build, build, build, build release. When I tried to do that build, build, build, build there was no release and there's still so much more. But we didn't know what to do, and so he would fall asleep. It seems like it's a very common experience for a lot of women in relationship. The husband falls asleep and we're there, and for me it was just, night after night, just the hot tears running down my face of there's so much more, but I don't know what it is and I don't know how to access it.

Speaker 3: 3:54

And so when my husband, this is such an experience like that's I'm sure lots of women resonate and I remember myself back then is just crying oh is this it? What's in it for me? And feeling a bit used feeling ah.

Speaker 1: 4:13

And I remember that, knowing that there was something more, but I didn't know what it was, I didn't know how to access it, and certainly at the time when he went and researched, it was really before the time of internet, even you know it was you go and look on and came home and he said you know, it seems you, like the majority of women, are non-orgasmic. Can you be content with what you can access, what you can feel? It was kind of like I guess that's my lot in life. So it was perpetual frustration and feeling, feeling the energy build in my body, but it was really. It didn't go anywhere and so at some point I just, okay, just start to pack it down, just start to push it down, put my energy into raising my girls, teaching school, and then, when my body literally shut me down when I was teaching, it was time to go into the inner journey.

Speaker 3: 5:04

And so I wanted to stop just before that Because I really want to like so. Women can relate to your experience. How did you feel about yourself as a woman when that was your experience? Like there's something else but I'm frustrated, I don't know how to access it. In some ways.

Speaker 1: 5:17

At the time it felt very much that I didn't really have a say over my body. I didn't really have a say over my body. I didn't really have the sense of understanding it. I didn't. And again, like I mentioned, I was married at the only one.

Speaker 1: 5:30

But this idea, if I'm thinking, okay, my body is for my husband, not for me, and that we're taught to don't tempt people, don't show this and that because it might tempt. So I remember, as soon as I got married, turtlenecks, come on, wear the baggy clothes. At one point, even when I talk about being disconnected from my body and my sexuality, I remember a friend who was doing a Tupperware party, but it was for week underwear and she said, oh, try on this beautiful yoga suit, it's just a beautiful blue for you. And I tried it on, zipped up the jacket and I stood in front of the mirror and I literally was nauseous because I saw these curves. But I like I can't do that, and so I actually literally couldn't A rejection, a complete rejection of femininity, of your body, of your physicality.

Speaker 1: 6:34

Yeah, that it was not. I could be naked at home, but it was not okay for somebody else to see my curves. That belonged to my husband. That belonged to so many ways where and actually just another circumstance shows up and I don't know, not everybody has been raised in a Christian home or a religious home, like I was. It was a beautiful family, beautiful community. However, the things that we're taught about ourselves as women and as sexual, erotic beings, that if that's where it belongs, if it belongs in this box of this marriage, then I remember going to a movie and I got turned on and for me that was sinful because I got turned on not by my husband. So I remember saying my husband we're not having sex tonight, and anytime I get turned on by something that's not us, I'm turning it down because for me it was a matter of no, that's. There's something wrong with me.

Speaker 3: 7:27

I have no wonder you can't even write. It's like I'm turning myself off completely all the time.

Speaker 1: 7:32

I can only respond to my husband, exactly yeah and I have a yeah and I that that really went in my practice of working with women over the last 14 years. It just shows up different things, whether it's a religious thing being raised in a home, but religion filters into our society as well. It doesn't. Women will come to me. I just I want to feel connected to my sexuality so we dive in.

Speaker 3: 7:58

But it came from my ability to do that, came from my own journey of at 42 having I actually hired a masturbation coach wow, that's quite amazing because I wonder what was the turning point, when you're like, okay, because you always oh, I'm not even looking there. Wow, I'm a masturbation coach. What happened?

Speaker 1: 8:19

it was that one came from when I was teaching. When I left my teaching career at the school, I began working in energy work and teaching that, and I was facilitating a course. That one came from when I was teaching. When I left my teaching career at the school, I began working in energy work and teaching that, and I was facilitating a course. The woman who was my roommate she ended up she had her doctorate in human sexuality and so I was telling her about my circumstances and my disconnection and not even feeling it comfortable with my body. So she said why don't we, while it was a five-day training that I was facilitating, she said why don't we, while we're in our hotel room, just be naked? And that to me was like, oh my goodness.

Speaker 1: 8:57

So you know, what do you do sitting in a hotel room, right Two beds, kind of I just look straight ahead, just try to talk there. But interestingly, over the first couple of hours I was able to start to turn my head and then start to have this conversation and such as, and eventually get up off the bed and start to work and do things to the point where it got so comfortable that day one, day two, by the fourth day I went to. I was on my way oh, it's time to go teach my class. I had my hand on the doorknob and I said oh, I have to get clothes on so that's a beautiful story that.

Speaker 1: 9:38

That's how much it shifted about my body and then as far as my sexuality itself, when my girls were grown and it felt like it was time I need to now start to turn my attention to my own journey, and so I took some courses, some trainings has something happened.

Speaker 3: 9:53

What was it? Because it's quite uh coming from. I don't even want to look there, I don't want to feel anything. Was there something that happened, or was it just a slow progress?

Speaker 1: 10:03

I think it was because I knew that was there within myself the whole time. And so it was just this, that idea of having a rock in your shoe. You can sort of you're walking on it and in some ways you get sort of used to it, but it's always an uncomfortable place. That was always, always within me and sort of that. A sense of dissatisfaction, a sense of sometimes anger even is like how can it, how can you know other women even? Or how can my husband like, why, like, why?

Speaker 3: 10:33

and I said I love it because I love, because anger I think that's what women we pushed away. It becomes resentment but actually was so pissed off when a man turns away right and he had his pleasure and we don't get it. I think we get really angry but we try to be good girls and we push it away. But I feel like if we really connect to the anger, that's what can really shift us, that's what can give us energy to. I'm gonna do something about it.

Speaker 1: 10:57

That's true. That's true. You hit on something there in the sense of the aspect of our own pleasure and when we've been taught that we are for somebody else and it's not even just sexually, but certainly we've been taught we are for somebody else or our authority is outside of us. We need permission or a partner. Everything is outside of us. We're just in that natural place of well, if it's not happening with that other person that I thought it would be, or I'm not even in a relationship, where is that? So, this aspect of starting to explore our own sexuality and again, we've been taught don't be too sexual, it's men are sexual but not emotional. Women are emotional but shouldn't be sexual. So this whole idea of the shoulds is, I call it the shroud of shame and the shroud of should and the shroud of shouldn't, and how much that cloaks our experience and not really allowing us to be who we are.

Speaker 1: 11:52

So for me, it became this journey of when I, when my girls, were out of the home, it felt like, okay, it's time to address that which you, what you ask about, is it's time to address this for myself, who am I? And so taking some courses, trainings and retreats where I was able to, in a circle of women, be able to and, talking about our stories, to be able to acknowledge for the first time I am a sexual, erotic being. And then journey, yeah, and then I continued that journey and I was. I took a training and our first assignment was to do seven days of a different type of erotic massage or erotic meditation. And I chose a mirror meditation. And so I sat in front of a mirror propped up against my bed, with this full-length mirror in front of me, and it was. I was supposed to be orgasmic and I'm thinking what gasmik, I am disgusted like.

Speaker 3: 12:50

This is gross, this is just oh, that's that, but it's like this. This is that feeling of shame and guilt and the disgust huh, it's just so and it feels it's not a natural piece. It really feels like it's been brought into us but we like, even when you speak it like I feel it, but we're so embodied, somehow it got into our bones but disgusted our sexuality.

Speaker 1: 13:12

Yeah, yeah, so, so true. And as I stayed with that day after day, what it took me down to was the self-loathing and then the shame, and then to existential shame, the shame that I even existed. And once I could get down to there, it's like that's what got to the bottom of those old stories, what I call the old stories. Those things are those ways of really hiding our truth, our power of who we are, as both women and as divine beings. And from there I was able to wow, this is amazing.

Speaker 1: 13:52

And one morning, laying there in bed, actually it was kind of like my awakening, sexual awakening was this is so pure, it's so good, it's so right, it's not dirty and wrong and bad, like we've been taught. And that, literally, was my instantaneous 180 degree. I could talk about, think about, look at sexuality in a whole new way. And that's where it just became this natural thing where I would. I took that training and then became actually not only a practitioner of sexological body work as a somatic sexologist, but then became my journey where I became the founder of sexological body work Canada, teaching other practitioners to support people in coming home to their sexuality. So that's where I shifted my teaching from schools to energy work, to encompassing all of that now in the sexual, erotic realm of things.

Speaker 3: 14:53

This is so beautiful. So I wonder, lorna, like if we talk to a woman right who now is still feeling like it doesn't fit well, this is more for me. I have no idea where to go and I feel this guilt and shame. What could you say? What would be the step for her?

Speaker 1: 15:09

I think in some ways it might be demonstrated really well by. I would like to offer a practice, if we can do that. We've been taught to look outside of ourselves, to not honor ourselves, been taught to look outside of ourselves, to not honor ourselves before I offer this practice that I say by divine design, because it's by what an incredible way to hide the truth and the power of how we are is to look away from it, any treasure. We always say, oh, detour that way or we hide it in some ways. So look outside. So I say so, let's start to look back in and come back home to who we are. One of those ways is to actually the power of touch and to be able to find out what makes you feel good is to actually start to use our own touch. Now I could use a pen.

Speaker 1: 15:57

Betty Martin. She talks about the power of the hand, proprioceptors. There's so many nerves here in our hands and, as she puts, it is, when the hand gets it, the whole body gets it. So to be able to just take a moment, and even if you have a pen handy, is to take that pen and to touch onto your hand just as an exploration, not with any expectations, not with even baggage from oh oh, I do it this way, but to actually be in this place of presence and curiosity and exploration and just see, as you're touching, what it feels like.

Speaker 1: 16:35

What does the hand feel like? What do you notice? And sometimes we're busy, yeah, we're busy touching. And the invitation now I'm going to invite you to actually slow down the touch. The slower we go, the more we feel and often, as we can go slow, our body starts to relax and again, the more you relax, the more you feel. Just see and allow yourself, not from an analysis or labeling even, what you're feeling, it's just feel it. The gift of being human is to feel, just explore. And I'm just going to go quiet for a little bit here and just let you touch and notice and feel.

Speaker 1: 17:43

Maybe touch your fingers and hands and ways and places you've never touched before what a rousing now I'm going to invite you to put the pencil down or whatever you are using to touch and to use your hand. Now here's the thing is, when I touch one hand to another hand, there's two ways of feeling I can feel. What does this hand feel as it touches? And what does this hand feel as it is being touched, bringing your awareness maybe to one direction of touch at a time, and this is a powerful gift you can give yourself. As you mentioned, tricia, that it feels very arousing For some women. We'll have that same response For some people. For some women might say I've never done this before. There might be even a kind of like oh, it feels good, I shouldn't be doing this, and that's just a reflection, sometimes, of what we've been taught.

Speaker 3: 19:18

It's interesting that I don't feel pleasure in my hand, but then I start to feel pain in my back. It's almost like I start to feel more in the body and it's like, oh, but there's something that's out there.

Speaker 1: 19:34

It's beautiful awareness and this is something that I say to women is we think that we, we think that as erotic beings or sexual beings, we have this idea of how it shows up in with a partner, or even if we're doing our own self-pleasuring, how, where it shows up, where it should show up or where it shouldn't show up. But this idea of many times I've been sitting in a restaurant and I just stroke my hand and just feel myself feeling alive within my body, just the sense of all the activity can be going on around me and even the conversation around me, and I can do this and it brings me into my body and, as you mentioned, teresa, it actually brings us more into an awareness of our whole body, so it brings us even more present to what's happening. So this idea of our sexual, erotic nature and essence, how can it actually not be compartmentalized but actually start to now infuse life into everything that we're doing?

Speaker 3: 20:40

So I wonder, what can you say to a woman who says, well, I don't feel pleasure in sex? What is like how, where can she start? So the touch. What else can you say?

Speaker 1: 20:54

I would say, first of all is to acknowledge and honor that's exactly what she's feeling. And sometimes there's this we put that down and say, well, I should. And so we try to force it right. And that's where there's a lot of the forced orgasms or faked orgasms, thinking it's supposed to be. But in terms of pleasure is, if women don't know what they want, that often they will just take what is given to them and even though it doesn't necessarily feel right or good, it's this sense of well, I should be content with it, I should settle, rather than trusting that inner sense of what's in them. And to be able to. I think it's a journey, teresa, about that journey of actually this doesn't feel good to me. I'd like to try something else. And also, our bodies are wise If something doesn't feel pleasurable, it's often showing us something in this relationship or something in this situation does not feel resonant, does not feel true to me, and so, to be able to, my invitation for women is to be able to allow that, to listen to themselves and even be in that place of exploration.

Speaker 1: 22:08

Why Is it that I'm in a relationship that I've just shut down myself? Because I'm here for the kids? Is it. I'm here for a partner. Is it a quick, short-term thing and I just don't really like it? But I feel like I need that release, or I should be. So. I think there's an awareness of being aware of the shoulds that show up, the shouldn'ts that show up, and to trust your body and do some exploration about what might be there, and certainly you and I in our work. There's that role of being able to support women, of unraveling what might be at play.

Speaker 1: 22:42

I think that when there is pain and I'm talking about a pain that is unintentional, but pain that's happening there, that shuts the body down and starts to disconnect us from our bodies it's because, energetically, our bodies know that there is not something in alignment and even though we may not be able to cognitively think of it, I think about recently, a couple that I was working with and they had an incredible experience together, online, my coaching with them, and then it was to be able to dive into some deep questions and have some conversations and they said, oh no, we're not going to.

Speaker 1: 23:18

And as I tune into that, the sense of there was something in the questions there and what they wanted was for her. They wanted to have more frequent sex and sex that wasn't painful for her. And as they shut those sessions down, they said oh no, it takes too much time to go into the questions and to do that. My sense is that there was something in those questions that perhaps would be revealed, that wasn't comfortable. They were happy to keep it as it was, but that her body said there's something here that doesn't ring true for me, but energetically, Because what happens?

Speaker 3: 23:53

women go well, my body, I don't have that pleasure and they start to feel my body is against me, which actually right. What we talk about, what you talk here about, is actually we need to lean into and listen to the body. That's body is shutting down, not because it's against you, but if it's, something is off and body is talking to you and we need to pay attention to that.

Speaker 1: 24:14

Oh so, true, and I, I see that's what I was just gonna say. I see those as gifts, even though at the time we don't see them. But to be able to say here's a gift, let's open it up, on your own or with the help of somebody that can help you to open it up and find out what's the gift in there. Where's your trueness, your true essence, your power? Where's that been hidden? What's the story that's wrapped it around to?

Speaker 3: 24:37

hide it as a message right, rather than my body's against me, something's not working, because women quite often go, there's something wrong with me and I'm not even going to look there, but actually turning towards it, and it's a message. And what is the message? That's what we need to figure out, to find out together. Yeah, that's so beautiful and we've got so many more questions. Could you talk to us a little bit about bondage? Is that the absolutely? But I'm saying it bondage.

Speaker 1: 25:09

Bondage, yeah, bondage. It's an incredible body of work. And soon after, when I was in one of my sexological bodywork trainings, taking that, we were presented with a spanking workshop and that was my first exposure to any that was kinky, bdsm, domination, submission, piece of things, and the way that we were taught it. It was such a beautiful, connecting, intimate thing. Just had our clothes on, but just this spanking. And for me spanking was a punishment thing from childhood and so physical impact was not a pleasurable thing. But this way of creating this intimacy and saying I'm here for you and to be able to tap into that erogenous zone of the bottom and then all the nerves that are around the pelvic floor and down the legs, that awakened me to something, oh, my goodness. And one of my colleagues said told me about bondage. And I said, ah, someday I'm going to take that training. And within the year I took the bondage training as a practitioner and soon after that my the creator, jaylene Venice, contacted me and she said would you like to become a trainer? I said, absolutely so. Now I'm a bondage trainer and I'm a global master trainer, so I can train trainers as well.

Speaker 1: 26:23

Bondage it's an experience that weaves together sensation, slow, touch, impact, play, touch, pleasure, pain, weaving all of these things together in this beautiful safe container that allows people to feel in this, in this container of domination and submission. I primarily have taught or trained women practitioners, although I have trained one man as well, and most of my clients and most of the clients that come are men, not always, but it's this aspect of coming in and just being in surrender. So this safe container for people to come and just surrender. And as I sit there, them kneeling in front of me at the massage table, I say here's my collar and I am committed to caring for you while you are here with me. I'm going to listen to your yellows and your reds. I'm going to listen because consent is foundational.

Speaker 1: 27:24

Your safety and your well-being is my primary concern and care.

Speaker 1: 27:29

And what I'm going to do is I'm going to take you on a journey, and a journey where you're going to feel some things, perhaps, that you have never felt before. It might be emotional, it might be physical, and I'm going to invite you to feel as fully as you can to take them on this journey. And so they get up onto this table and they are sensory deprivation, where there's the blindfolds and the music that's piped into their ears. They're strapped to the tables, tied to the table, and in this place of now, all they can do is to feel. They have their words, their safe words, where they can say yes or no, or say yes or stop. It's basically this opportunity for them to feel and it starts to create this, weaving together this touch and the soft, and some impact, play and some different types of sensation, sometimes temperature, sometimes some little pokey things, but it starts to take them out of their minds and into the body so they can actually just feel. It's there in one manner beautiful.

Speaker 3: 28:30

I really like feeling. It's that expensive and what I love about that is that it actually teaches us how to welcome all emotions well, not define them as bad and good, but through touch where right the impact might feel like, well, that's bad, but actually it's pleasurable. And opening the body on the physical, somatic level, to whatever feeling we have they're so.

Speaker 1: 28:53

True, that's right. And what I find it's actually interesting when I do the and I just finished, just a few weeks ago, I finished training another practitioner the way that I teach them is that it's in this women's empowerment rule, where I'm teaching women to actually really step into their power, to be able to say, yeah, this is what I want. I'm going to play on your body, I'm going to do these things. Or sometimes, that impact of feeling the thud of a flogger or feeling the smack and the sting of a cane. It allows women to play upon their bodies, on the bodies of these men, in ways that we've not.

Speaker 1: 29:36

Oh, I can't do that. I'm supposed to be for the man. No, he's here for you. If you feel like you're starting to hold back, remember he's here for you. If you feel like you're starting to hold back, remember he's got his yes or no. He's got his. He's got his safe words. If it's too much, he'll let you know. He is here for you to fully step into. What is it you want to experience? What is it you want to express in playing upon this body and creating these experiences? And it's been, it's. Every time I take a woman through a training. She says I'm totally different. I totally see relationships as different. I see myself as a woman totally different. I feel the empowerment it's. It's truly transformational and it's just such an incredible experience, a way to support women in really stepping into who they are as women.

Speaker 3: 30:27

I'm just amazed at where you came from and what you do now. It's like wow.

Speaker 1: 30:35

And that's when I think it's really it's never too late. I'm 62 years old and I'm still passionate about the work that I'm doing. I'm making these transformations for people as I continue to dive in and things continue to come up for me. Oh, there's an old story and it's just what an incredible journey this is on to be able to as I say, we've it's and I use the story analogy is we've been told and taught a certain way to label, to disconnect from who we are. So, this journey of empowerment, what an incredible thing to be able to now start to reclaim, bit by bit, these pieces are here, opening these gifts and knowing ourselves.

Speaker 3: 31:14

I love that and it's never too late. I love that message because women play this piece about the menopause and I'm too old, but actually it's never too late. So I wonder how can people find more about?

Speaker 1: 31:27

you. I'm on Facebook and people can connect with me there. I have a trusted body work a page on trusted body work that shows some client testimonials to get a range of the various things that we do together. Then people can contact me. Hey, I'd like to talk, and for me, oftentimes we have this of coming onto a call oh, they're going to be selling. I want to be able to be there.

Speaker 1: 31:49

For me, it's never about the calls are to be able to create this container for women, even if it's a small way, to start to come back home and trust their own bodies, listen to and hear their own voices and to be able to figure out for themselves what's their best next step. Is it working with you? Is it working with me? Is there somebody else? But what is it? And that's what I love these coming together in these calls, and I say there's no strings attached, there's a door. If you feel to continue to work with me, there's a door. We can walk through that door together. There's no strings attached. I'm here to support people in really coming back home to themselves. I didn't know when I was 18, 20, I didn't know there was. I thought it was going to be like this forever. I didn't know that there was a different way. I think that's a big part of it is women don't know that there's another way.

Speaker 3: 32:38

Well, sometimes I feel like they even skip to look at the door. If I see the door, what's going to happen? So it's beautiful, the invitation. I love that. I wonder if you check in, what will be your last message to the women? And if you check in, tune in to the people who are listening.

Speaker 1: 32:53

The journey home will be incredible, and when you get to the realization of who you really are, as a woman and as a divine being, that it will be just a natural thing that you will flow and live from the inside out.

Speaker 3: 33:10

I love that and it's such a fulfilling journey, Beautiful. Thank you so much, Lorna. I know we can talk more and more. Thank you so much for sharing so much. It was a joy talking to you. Thank you and listen. I'll see you next week.