Exploring Multi-Orgasmic States, Sexual Vitality, and Emotional Healing with Sureya Leonara

In this episode, Tarisha speaks with Sureya Leonara, a holistic sex and relationship coach, about multi-orgasmic men and how women can expand their sexual experiences. Sureya shares her personal journey of overcoming chronic illness and rediscovering her libido and zest for life through Tantra and Taoism. The discussion delves into the importance of staying connected to one's sensual and sexual energy, balancing emotions, and the benefits of non-ejaculatory orgasms for men.

The episode includes a guided breathwork practice designed to connect listeners to their vitality and sensuality. Sureya also emphasizes the need for women to reclaim their sexual empowerment by being centred, receiving fully, and embracing their emotional depths.

00:00 Introduction to Multi-Orgasmic Men
00:18 Meet Sureya Leonara
01:34 Sureya's Personal Journey
05:08 Defining Sexual Empowerment
07:17 Micro Practice: Making Love with Life
13:45 Embracing Emotions in Sexuality
19:15 Understanding the Body's Messages
23:14 Supporting Male Partners in Sexuality
27:56 Final Thoughts and Farewell

About Sureya Leonara:

Sureya is a holistic sex and relationship coach, writer, and a pioneer in healing and liberating sexuality. She is on a mission to change the world through healing and liberating sexuality, bringing more love and beauty into our intimate lives. Her work is transformative for both men and women, helping them connect more deeply with their bodies, desires, and each other.

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

They can basically last as long as they want. They could just keep going and have these multiple rolling full-body orgasms without losing their erection or having that refractory period, and without the ejaculatory hangover. I find that they're able to tap into an orgasmic experience that's more similar to what a woman can tap into.

Speaker 2: 0:18

Welcome to this episode. Today I'm really happy to be talking to Soraya Leonara. We talked about the multi-orgasmic men, how women can have more expanded experience of their sexuality, how we can make love to life and how to make love with all of our feelings, how we don't need to be in a happy place for lovemaking. How beautiful it is to make love to sadness, to anger, to the depth in us. It's a beautiful place that couples can create with each other where we can welcome all of our feelings. Soraya talked about it beautifully. She's a holistic sex and relationship coach, a writer. She's on a mission to change the world through healing and liberating sexuality, bringing more love, bringing more beauty into our sexuality. If you're a man, you can listen to that as well, because we talked about how men can become ultra-orgasmic and she's got very good programs that help men with that.

Speaker 2: 1:19

Welcome. I'm so happy to have you here, soraya. I really love reading about you and that you're doing kind of very similar work to me sexually empowering women. Maybe if you can tell a couple of words how you got to do this work? What's your personal journey?

Speaker 1: 1:33

with that Sure. Thank you so much for having me here, Tanisha. I came into this work through a bit of a dark night of the soul. I ended up getting Lyme's disease and kind of a whole mess of chronic illness in my early 20s, and so with that I lost my libido and I was experiencing pain during sex. And I noticed that with losing my libido I also lost my zest for life. And so it was this clue into how connected our sexual vitality is to our overall vitality and inspiration and aliveness, and so I started. This is so beautiful because that's what I tell women.

Speaker 2: 2:05

Vitality is to our overall vitality and inspiration and aliveness, and so I. It's not like it's right, this is so beautiful, because that's what I tell women. It's not just because they say I don't want sex, but it's not just about sex. It's the desire, that passion for life, which is also for and you noticed it, huh yeah absolutely.

Speaker 1: 2:18

it's our sexual energy, is the creative life force that we are made out of, it's how we got here in these bodies and it is our vitality. So I really got to see that and then started journeying down the pathways of Tantra and Taoism and opening up new access points to my sexuality and how that wove into every other area of my life, and so that was how I came into this work.

Speaker 2: 2:39

Yeah, beautiful. And so, through the work, was it a gradual change? Was it something that really got you there? Oh, you found back the desire, the best for life. How was it for you?

Speaker 1: 2:51

It's a really good question. I would say it's been a very non-linear journey and I think that's an important thing for people to understand, because sometimes we think, oh, I'm there, I've arrived, and then some other life challenge comes through and it's important to not get hard on ourselves if we slip again or we find ourselves back in a hole, thinking what happened? I thought I had healed, and so for me it was a long journey of healing sexual trauma, healing my body, connecting more deeply with my spirituality, healing things within my relationship. But there were other chapters in my life where, for example, I got really burned out building my business and then started to notice my libido tank again. So that was another kind of deepening of the lesson and how important it is to stay in balance and not be in this overdrive of yang energy, doing, going and really being able to listen to the body in that way.

Speaker 2: 3:42

I love that it's so nonlinear, because sometimes I feel like I got it all together and then something happens. Right, I'm like, oh, here we go again. But I feel like it's the spiral right and I can see more and I it's easier to get back into the balance. I don't know if you noticed that. Yes, but like back then in my twenties it was so like when the dark comes it. Like back then in my 20s, it was so like when the dark comes, it's just.

Speaker 1: 4:05

Oh, there's nothing there.

Speaker 2: 4:06

But now it's like, yeah, I know this place, I can get out quicker, find my balance.

Speaker 1: 4:11

Once you've shown yourself you can overcome that and come into balance, you have the breadcrumbs home to that, yeah.

Speaker 2: 4:17

And have you healed the Lyme disease?

Speaker 1: 4:20

Have you healed your body physically? You know it's an interesting question. I still have a lot of lingering chronic health stuff, but I don't really I don't really approach it so much through the perspective of Lyme anymore. I work primarily with Chinese medicine and just working to find where the Qi is blocked and supporting the overall vitality and balance of the body, rather than chasing down the pathogen, which I did for a long time, and the current approach feels a lot better. So I do still have some issues issues with my health but the way that I navigate them these days is so different than it used to be and I'm a lot more patient with the process. I'm a lot more in tune with my body and a lot more humble in terms of when I need rest and just really prioritizing self-care yeah, and I feel your energy is so beautiful, like there's this energy there and the lightness in you, thank you so much, yeah, so I wonder if we can define sexual empowerment, because we're going to talk about how women can empower themselves.

Speaker 2: 5:14

What does it actually mean, like for you and I know like I've done research on that, I've done some different definitions, but what is it for you?

Speaker 1: 5:21

it's a really good question because it's a word that's thrown around a lot. To me, it's about being very centered in self and connected to that divine, creative sexual life force that permeates all beings that we are made of, as I was speaking to, and feeling very sovereign within that, having a connection to our sexuality that is uniquely ours, where it's not dependent upon or in reference to another person, but being seated in that sense of self and feeling alive and inspired and turned on by life.

Speaker 2: 5:56

I love that, huh yeah, turned on by life, because I've done research, that I've done my master sexual empowerment and sexual desire and what I? There's this piece that they say that women's desire is a responsive rather than spontaneous, and quite that. They say that women's desire is responsive rather than spontaneous and quite often they expect that it's responsive to the male partner or like to the partner right To the loving partner, to my partner and in my how I feel it is more my response to the world, my response to nature rather than to particular stimulus. So I love it, right, it's like desire for life and it brings that sexual energy.

Speaker 1: 6:31

Yeah, I love that so much, yeah, and I think it's very connected to how fully we're able to receive and knowing what we want and feeling empowered to ask for that, and like claiming time and space for ourselves, both solo and with a partner, in terms of our pleasure and what our body needs, and being able to draw healthy boundaries make clear requests, all of these kinds of things that really honor what the truth of that essence is for us.

Speaker 2: 7:00

Yeah. So I wonder, what do you feel like are most important aspects? Are the keys to sexual empowerment and how, and also how women can actually, if we talk about right, the woman is listening. How can she bring it into her life? What would be the steps?

Speaker 1: 7:15

the first steps, yeah, so I think, coming back to that concept of being really turned on by life and being available to receive what life has to offer, like what you were speaking to, of having that relationship with life, not just with a partner and actually there's a little practice I could take us through a little micro practice that I love connected to this this concept of how fully are we drinking in life, in each moment?

Speaker 2: 7:40

Because I think a lot of, a lot of people can expect.

Speaker 1: 7:49

Some lover is supposed to just come along and turn us on, and, from the Taoist perspective, female sexuality is like water, so they say it takes a long time to boil, but once it stays hot, or once it's boiling, it stays hot for a long time. So if we are walking around with cold water all the time and we're bringing our lover cold water, think about how long it takes to heat up cold water, whereas if we are keeping that water warm throughout the day by the ways that we tend to that energy and not even just in explicitly sexual ways, but sensual ways, things that help us feel alive, really sinking into our five senses, enjoying our food, touching our bodies, feeling the sun and the wind on our skin and our hair, taking in the smells around us, all of these things can really nourish us if we're paying attention. But if we're on autopilot, if we're multitasking, if we feel shut down and disconnected, we're going to miss all these things that are available to nourish us if we're actually opening to receive them.

Speaker 2: 8:51

For me, the more I do the work and the more we just even talk about it, I feel the energy is right there. And I noticed my beloved here. Oh, you've been talking about sex today. I was like that's my job, that's what I do. I come with it already almost at the boil point. We can do that with ourselves paying attention. Oh, it's right, there doesn't have a chance to cool down if we pay attention to that life force.

Speaker 1: 9:15

right where attention goes, energy flows. Energy, it's that shakti, it's that feminine life force, and so if our attention is scattered, we're going to be leaking our energy. When we're focused and when we're really rooted in the body, practicing, practicing, staying embodied we get to play with that energy, we get to let it light us up. And so one of my favorite practices for this, I call it making love with life. It's a practice that you can do in a more extended period over 15 minutes or longer but you can also do it as a little micro practice throughout your day where you can do it just for a couple of seconds. Yes, so yeah, let's drop in with a little micro practice throughout your day where you can do it just for a couple of seconds. Yes, so yeah, let's drop in with a little short version of it together. Yeah, I'm going to practice like call it down making love to the universe.

Speaker 1: 9:58

That's beautiful, I want to see. Oh, I love that. I love that. I wonder if they're similar. Let's see.

Speaker 1: 10:03

So if it feels good, just closing your eyes and everyone can do this along with us so, just taking a moment to close your eyes and placing your hands somewhere on your body, that would really appreciate receiving your nourishing touch and just noticing where your breath is right now, noticing its pace, its rhythm, its depth, and noticing where it is seated in your body. A lot of times, our breathing can be shallow or constricted or not making it all the way down to the deepest parts of us. So we're going to inhale. This can be through the nose or the mouth and we want to bring it all the way down into the pelvic bowl, allowing the belly to be soft and to expand like a big Buddha belly with our inhale and allowing that breath to stretch 360 into kidneys, working its way up through the diaphragm, through the front sides, the backs of the lungs and, once it's filled you from roots, all the way up through your heart. Just slowly exhaling, emptying, softening, ideally with an audible sigh, exhaling through the mouth and letting this breath be slow, rhythmic and continuous as you inhale. I want you to imagine that you are drinking in the sweetest nectar, the kiss of the divine, and drinking this breath down like warm golden honey that's coating your insides and penetrating every cell of your body with a warm golden light as you exhale of your body, with a warm golden light.

Speaker 1: 11:53

As you exhale, you're clearing any stagnant energy and just offering yourself fully, in full presence and devotion upon the altar of life. So letting this breath be really sensual, luscious and full-bodied. You can really let yourself be moved by this breath. Perhaps your spine is undulating and really engaging the breath, as if you are making love with life itself.

Speaker 1: 12:18

In connection with all that is Allowing yourself to receive the nourishment and the vitality of the breath fully, all the way down in the pelvic bowl and into every little nook and cranny of your being that perhaps has been cut off from the breath, and just giving yourself fully to this moment with each and every breath, letting yourself come fully alive, feeling this energy stir in the cauldron that is your pelvic bowl, activating your yoni, your womb swirling all the way up into your heart and feeling this dance between heart and yoni, masculine and feminine, pull, the dance of yin and yang that is always pulsating through you the love making of shiva and shakti, giving these last few breaths everything you've got, really allowing yourself to come fully alive here, to drink in this moment with your senses, seeing how fully you can drink of this moment, how deeply you can allow yourself to be nourished and turned on by life, noticing what has shifted in your body and as you take your time to make your way back into this space, just staying connected to your body, connected to your breath and expanded in this aliveness that you allowed yourself to open to.

Speaker 2: 13:45

Now I feel I want to connect. Now I feel so much sadness. It's like ah, ah, so thank you for giving me this space.

Speaker 1: 13:52

Is something is shifting, moving inside, and I just feel that the sadness that's yeah, it's amazing what it can bring up and just reveal to us what's here when we give space to feel it. Yeah, thank you for going there with me yeah, and it's interesting that I wasn't even.

Speaker 2: 14:09

I was feeling something, but now I'm giving space to that is, oh, this is that sadness is so alive in me. I love that you're.

Speaker 1: 14:17

I was just gonna say I love that you're speaking to sadness as aliveness, because I think a lot of people don't make that connection sometimes. But it's such a deep place of our feeling and I love this practice as a way to really sink your teeth into life, regardless of what you're feeling, to really open to receive it whatever it is.

Speaker 2: 14:37

Yeah, that it doesn't need to be all exciting and joyful and pleasure. It's like, oh, I just want to sit and cry. Yeah, it feels quite alive and it's nice to give it space. But I see it how women feel, like it's only if I'm joyful, if I'm happy, then I can be sexual. But I find it so much depth when we should be like making love to sadness.

Speaker 1: 15:01

Absolutely much depth when we're actually like making love to sadness absolutely, and I. Our emotions are so connected to the sacral chakra and our sexual energy and if we limit ourselves to only feel certain emotions, that's going to limit our sexual pleasure and the depth of our orgasm, as well as feeling that sadness, grief, anger all of these are so important for accessing the fullness of our sensation yeah, and I wonder what you experience, because women quite often feel, oh no, I can't.

Speaker 2: 15:27

Like my partner is not gonna be okay with that. If I feel sadness or grief or anger, what's?

Speaker 1: 15:32

your experience? That's such a good question. I cry a lot during orgasm. Actually, I have certain orgasms that just bring me to tears, and sometimes they are connected to deep sadness. Sometimes it's awesome, sometimes it's almost a grief that's connected to love. I find when you really love someone, I grieve the people I love, because I'm always just one day I won't have them and there's something about the grief and connection with that love that brings me into deeper gratitude and presence for them that's so interesting because that's what my experience last week was.

Speaker 2: 16:08

I felt so much love for my beloved and I couldn't stop crying. I was just like I was sobbing so much, but it was. It was from love, right, and he's there, but I felt so deeply. Okay, it's a crying day for me today, but I just felt so deeply that love it's. I love you so much and it's yeah, I was just sobbing and sobbing.

Speaker 1: 16:28

I so understand, teresa, I I so enter that space what is not like.

Speaker 2: 16:37

The person is there right, somehow something opens up.

Speaker 1: 16:41

Yeah yeah, there's something just I. I feel like it's connected to reverence, to just like this feeling of awe, of gratitude, of interest, a part of the human condition, of how blessed we are to get to experience this moment, and yeah, and not wanting to hurt in any way, that was my oh.

Speaker 2: 16:59

Like I know, in my human form I am gonna hurt, right people I love. Like I can't get away from it, I just, but I'm just so not wanting it and knowing it and it's just oh, yes, totally, and I I think bringing other emotions into lovemaking can be so gorgeous too.

Speaker 1: 17:17

Sometimes bringing anger, bringing sadness, bringing there's so much of the body can communicate somatically, kinesthetically, that sometimes words just can't touch. And I find for me and my partner there are certain times when it's like words have reached their limit and processing something is just going to feel like picking at it past, like it's not going to go any further, and when we can really drop into the body and follow the thread of how the body is, want to move together and maybe that's more sexual and maybe it's more sensual or goes on a whole journey. But letting the bodies talk I find can be really healing and how do you find?

Speaker 2: 17:58

are they so beautiful? I like it when the words reach this limit. We need to go back to the body and feeling. And how do you find? Oh, that's so beautiful. I like it when the words reached its limit. We need to go back to the body and feeling. And how do you find your partner? Are they okay with it, with the tears, and do you have an agreement around it? How do you? Because sometimes women, when they've never experienced it, they feel no, I can't. It feels like almost like beyond what my partner can do for me. But I find they're actually very responsive. And if I think about myself, if my partner, but I find they're actually very responsive, and if I think about myself, if my partner feels deeply and starts crying, I'd be really happy to be there.

Speaker 1: 18:26

Yeah, I find my partner is really supportive of that, and I think maybe some partners don't understand why the tears are there and it could be helpful for them to understand we just want to be held, or whatever it is that we need, because we don't even need to explain why they're here. I think some people are uncomfortable with tears or they think, oh, this is out of context and it's not. Tears are one of the fluids that can move with our sexual expression. There's so many. Sexual energy is very watery, and so I see the tears as just part of that water element, of what wants to flow sometimes, and such a beautiful piece of it.

Speaker 2: 18:59

Yeah, I love it. It's not explaining where they're coming from, because quite often we don't even know, just the tears are there, but it's more being able to say I'm okay and I just want you to hold me, or I want you to do that. Can you just be here with me?

Speaker 1: 19:11

Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 19:13

Yeah, I want to talk about women who feel like what is against them? Yeah, and I lost my desire or I have pain during sex. Yeah, also, when women start to go through menopause, there are a lot of things that happen right in the body or like the skin is too sensitive, like what can you about that? What can women do.

Speaker 1: 19:36

It's a really great question. I I think that's yeah, that's such, that's been such. A big piece of my journey is coming to understand that my body is not against me and my body is always just communicating with me in the ways that she knows how. And so I think, when we can recognize, start to cultivate an allyship with our bodies and to stay really curious and to learn their languages and to also let our bodies know we're here and we're listening, so that they don't feel like they have to get louder because we're overriding them or we're not trusting them. Our body needs to trust us in the way we need to trust it as well, and so if there has been wounding there of times that we've overridden our body, we all have More times we didn't trust our body. I find cultivating a relationship and a repair process around that of starting to learn the language of your body, letting your body know I'm here, I'm listening, I trust you.

Speaker 1: 20:27

I think, anytime that we are having some sort of I don't even like the term sexual dysfunction because it implies that something is wrong, and I work extensively with sexual dysfunctions, especially with men, but also with women, and almost always it is rooted somewhere emotionally, psychologically, even if there is a physical health issue involved. I also think that those health issues often start somewhere emotionally and psychologically on some other layer first, before they become physical, and as we heal the patterns that caused our body to respond in that way, I think that even the physical problems can start to heal. But I think sometimes, if we're having low libido, it can be something like we're in burnout or just an overdrive. We're demanding too much of our bodies, we're disconnected from our spirituality or a sense of purpose or passion. It's often connected to something bigger could be a block in the relationship.

Speaker 1: 21:27

Same with like pain during sex. I think sometimes it can be something going on in the relationship. It can be that we're moving too quickly, we're not allowing ourselves to take up the time and space we need. I think, as women, all of us have been penetrated prematurely at some point in our lives, even if it was by a loving partner who we were excited to have sex with. Sometimes we just don't give our bodies enough time, for whatever reason, and so our yoni can speak up about hey, I need a little more time, I need to be tended to.

Speaker 2: 21:53

Well, that's, yeah, that's messages, right. It's not there's something wrong. My body is somehow against me, right. But actually the body's sending the message and that's what I find. If we don't listen, then they start to speak up loud and louder. But if we start listening and responding and I love that, right, because it's the trust that our we need to listen to the body and respond, because that's how the trust is going to be built.

Speaker 1: 22:15

It's not just I listen now and I'm not going to even do that, because that happens quite a lot, huh exactly, and sometimes the body communicates so subtly and whispers. And if we can get really good at listening and, like you said, responding to that, it doesn't need to get so loud.

Speaker 2: 22:32

But we have to get good at hearing those subtle cues and then having the discipline to honor them beautiful, yeah, and I just remember one of my clients, like she's done my 10-week course, actually empowered, reading one course and then she said and my course is like sexual empowerment, not focused on weight loss whatsoever but she said she lost like quite a bit of weight through doing the course because she said when she went shopping she felt like her belly was pushing the trolley and she could only pick up the food that her body wanted. But is that attunement developing, that attunement to what's good for me, and then we don't think about what's good, what's not, what the body knows? Yes, listen, beautiful. Yeah, yeah, beautiful. I think I've got one last question, if we can talk about men, right for how women relate, and I'm quite like I work a lot with heterosexual women and I really like that polarity and that relational dynamics.

Speaker 2: 23:25

I'm a couple therapist as well, so what? Do you say what women need to know. What wisdom can you impart on women? What do they need to know about their male partners? As it relates to our sexuality?

Speaker 1: 23:37

That's a good question. I think one really important thing to understand is that men carry a lot of pressure in the bedroom to perform to last long enough to maintain an erection. They sometimes don't have the same experience that we do of getting to just relax and receive, and it can be a lot for them to navigate that space. I specialized in working with men for a long time, and so it can become a negative feedback loop where, once they have anxiety about it, it can just get worse and worse, and so I think something that's really beautiful is if we can work as a team with our male partners on creating the kind of sexual experience we want, even when it comes to things like stamina that we often might think is like their responsibility or their job. But we can actually work that together If we're really attuned, if we're in communication, if we're supporting them.

Speaker 1: 24:29

In that I do see it as a two-way street and really celebrating their journey with it, celebrating their orgasm. When we're in an orgasmic state, we are highly programmable, and so if we are obviously disappointed, let's say if they come too soon, they feel that and they take that in on a very deep level and it's going to feed into future anxiety and continue to perpetuate that same result. And so I think, when we can be really supportive in navigating that journey with them and also have talks with them about how, let's say, if they do come too soon, how can we look at male ejaculation as a dot instead of an exclamation point that ends everything, I think that choosing to not see the male ejaculation as the grand finale that ends the whole can be really helpful to just open things up in a new way and make sure that both people are feeling met. So that's one piece, I would say but what's your view on non-ejaculatory sex?

Speaker 1: 25:26

so I am a huge fan of non-ejaculatory orgasms it's one of the things I taught men for a long time. So, yeah, when we get into that territory, it opens up like entirely new horizons, and that's helping a man venture into that territory. That's definitely a co-creative process as well, and I think it's a really beautiful thing to help men lean into that space and help them understand that there is so much more available to them through that.

Speaker 2: 25:51

Not just sexually. So if you go into that space, what's actually? What's your experience of that?

Speaker 1: 25:57

Sorry, what was the question?

Speaker 2: 25:58

Sex without ejaculation. What's your experience?

Speaker 1: 26:05

So we can think what's possible. What's your experience of that? They can basically last as long as they want. They could just keep going and have these multiple rolling full body orgasms without losing their erection or having that refractory period and without the ejaculatory hangover. I find that they're able to tap into an orgasmic experience that's more similar to what a woman can tap into where it is these full body rolling orgasms instead of a sharp peak and drop off on the other side, and then they are able to stay more connected on the other side of that, instead of being tired and getting that huge dump of prolactin that just makes them want to roll over and go to sleep and disconnect. And so I find it makes for a much more connective experience as well as because the energy is not shooting out of them through their ejaculation and they're circulating it and reversing the flow. It can enter, it can penetrate their heart in a more powerful way and all of their upper chakras, which can lead to more spiritually activating, multidimensional experiences.

Speaker 2: 27:01

What can you say about the blue?

Speaker 1: 27:03

balls phenomenon. It just needs to. The energy just needs to be circulated and integrated, and so if they're getting blue balls, the energy is getting stuck, and so it's important that they work with practices to circulate the energy and make sure it's not stagnating.

Speaker 2: 27:17

Maybe we can put something in show notes for the male partners. Is there anything you recommend, like how can they start practicing that Sure?

Speaker 1: 27:25

I do have a course called multi-orgasmic vitality for men. That gets into all the nuts and bolts of it, and that's yeah, that's a really beautiful way to have a step-by-step journey that covers all the different components of it. And then I also do work with people one-on-one, and so that's another thing that I just love. Teaching is the art of non-ejaculatory orgasm. I think it's the most incredible thing for a man to tap into, and such rich benefits for the women as well.

Speaker 2: 27:51

Beautiful, rich benefits for the women as well. Beautiful, okay, so I can put it in show notes so people can see that course, and yeah, so I wonder, so we can talk and talk. I love how we talk the same way. Yes, it's so beautiful. If you connect to the women now who are listening, what would be your last message for them?

Speaker 1: 28:08

whatever, I would say yeah, I guess something that we didn't touch on that I think would be important to say is that so much of our sexual empowerment is connected to our capacity to be with high intensity sensation, whether that is it's uncomfortable to ask for what we want or to draw a boundary, or to navigate conflict, or to just be with large amounts of pleasure. All of these things require huge capacity and being very centered in self, and having our seat of power be down in our yoni, in our lower dantient this whole lower region, a lower seat of power, is going to help us stay grounded, empowered, connected to our bodies and to what we need. It helps us to create the life that we want to create.

Speaker 1: 29:00

Rather than, I think, as women, we're so conditioned to be polite and people pleasing and appeasing, a lot of that energy is. It's more up here in the head. It's scattered, it's. Our voices will often be higher and faster if we're in this place of being disconnected from self, and so it's really about anchoring down into the body, slowing down, knowing that you are worthy of taking up time and space and energy that you're worthy of receiving. Just simply because you are worthy of receiving, you don't need to like give back every time you receive. You don't need to hurry up and have that knee-jerk response of pouring it back into somebody else's cup right away, but really relaxing into receiving and creating space to just be with that energy will change your life. So that's what I would leave us with.

Speaker 2: 29:51

And I do expect your pleasure potential retreat, so where we go for three days and we're really like how can I take more energy and really expand that? Yes, and how can people find more?

Speaker 1: 30:03

about you. The practice that we did today is called Making Love With Life, and you can get the full expanded version of that for free when you sign up for my email list. So I'm sure there'll be a little link that we can put in the show notes. And, yeah, getting on my email list is a great way to stay in touch. You can follow me on Instagram. I have online courses and I work with clients one-on-one, and then I also have my own podcast called Nectar, sex and Soul. It's been on hiatus for a year and a half, but I do plan on getting back on it soon. It's a really fun project for me, so just had a lot of big life transitions recently and I look forward to getting back on it. But those are some good ways to stay in touch with me.

Speaker 2: 30:42

Thank you so much. Saray and listeners, thank you so much. We'll see you again.

Speaker 1: 30:46

Thank you so much for having me, teresa. It was such a pleasure to connect with you, and thank you everybody for joining us.